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Message 72216 - Posted: 20 Jan 2005, 23:43:45 UTC
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As the topic says, you still haven't set background colour to white. Not everyone (e.g. me) has a white background colour. So on my (not only) system the main page looks ridiculous in some places... ;)
No offense... :D

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Message 72220 - Posted: 21 Jan 2005, 0:15:02 UTC - in response to Message 72216.  

> As the topic says, you still haven't set background colour to white. Not
> everyone (e.g. me) has a white background colour. So on my (not only) system
> the main page looks ridiculous in some places... ;)
> No offense... :D
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here with Mozilla Firefox on Windows Sp1, i have No Probsm all is working fine

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Message 72229 - Posted: 21 Jan 2005, 0:31:59 UTC - in response to Message 72220.  

I&apos;m getting the twin-grey <tr><td> scheme in Safari, Konqueror, Camino, FireFox...
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Message 72232 - Posted: 21 Jan 2005, 0:35:44 UTC

Have you actually looked at the CSS stylesheet located here? I see the following:

body , table , input , select {
background-color: #ffffff;
font-family: Verdana, Arial, Sans Serif;
font-size: 12px;
}

body {
background-color: white;
color: black;
}

I am kind of new to CSS but it looks to me like the background color is indeed set to white. If I am missing something, please tell me and I might be able to poke some people :)
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Message 72233 - Posted: 21 Jan 2005, 0:36:45 UTC - in response to Message 72220.  

> here with Mozilla Firefox on Windows Sp1, i have No Probsm all is working
> fine
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> Greetings from Germany NRW
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Sure, cause you have not set to use windows default colours... Nobody hears, what i'm saying, cause nobody understands, what i'm talking about. Not everybody has The standard values that comes with the application, regardless of Internet Exploder, Firefox (my favourite), Netscape, Opera or something else... The default is white, but if someone (like me) is setting that to another colour the site looks ridiculous. POINT

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Message 72235 - Posted: 21 Jan 2005, 0:40:31 UTC - in response to Message 72232.  
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> I am kind of new to CSS but it looks to me like the background color is indeed
> set to white. If I am missing something, please tell me and I might be able
> to poke some people :)
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[edited for 5 times to no avail %(]

Ok, snip from the main page html code:
the body tag
should be:
the body tag with the attribute bgcolor = #FFFFFF

OR CSS:
<body style="background-color:#FFFFFF">

...and there would be no problem...

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Message 72239 - Posted: 21 Jan 2005, 0:46:26 UTC - in response to Message 72220.  

> > As the topic says, you still haven't set background colour to white. Not
> > everyone (e.g. me) has a white background colour. So on my (not only)
> system
> > the main page looks ridiculous in some places... ;)
> > No offense... :D
> >
> >
> here with Mozilla Firefox on Windows Sp1, i have No Probsm all is working
> fine
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> Greetings from Germany NRW
> Ulli href="http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=3067">S@h
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I use Mozilla FireFox too!, working fine !
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Message 72240 - Posted: 21 Jan 2005, 0:47:19 UTC - in response to Message 72233.  
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-->Nobody hears,what i'm saying,

thats not true, but the wrong person are watching you typing;-)

Thanks Uli!

your posting could close an open question I'm having at an other place.

Haven't included the white.css so far, it works propper 4me. Sure it does with an standard environment!

So if my understanding (with you help Danke) is right, it's mandatory to include the css to secure the identical apperance/Erscheinung for "non standard" environment like a nonIE browser or with "non standard" background colors.

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Message 72242 - Posted: 21 Jan 2005, 0:47:43 UTC - in response to Message 72239.  

> I use Mozilla FireFox too!, working fine !
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Sure, cause you haven't modified the defaults...

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Message 72246 - Posted: 21 Jan 2005, 0:59:18 UTC - in response to Message 72240.  
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> So if my understanding (with you help Danke) is right, it's mandatory to
> include the css to secure the identical apperance/Erscheinung for "non
> standard" environment like a nonIE browser or with "non standard" background
> colors.
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> grz ric
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Yes that's true. The standard is white. But if someone ( like the disturbing me ;) ) has set the default background to another colour, that (the private set colour) is used instead of white. If the site administrator whishes to use white, he (or she) has to set it explicitely in the body tag or in the corresponding .css file. I don't know if the tag <background-color: white> is sufficient, cause i always use <body style="background-color:#FFFFFF" > for that.

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Message 72250 - Posted: 21 Jan 2005, 1:12:14 UTC

Um you need to get a grip and reset your colors.........
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Message 72253 - Posted: 21 Jan 2005, 1:13:38 UTC - in response to Message 72250.  

> Um you need to get a grip and reset your colors.........
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...um, another one, that don't have the balls to understand...

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Message 72262 - Posted: 21 Jan 2005, 1:29:47 UTC - in response to Message 72232.  

Even if the body, table, blah, blah, blah says "background-color: white;", the td.* are clear:
th{ background-color: [b]#c8c8c8[/b];}
td.bordered { border: 1px solid grey;}
td.indent{ border-left: 4px solid white;}
td.heading{ background-color: [b]#c8c8c8;[/b]}
...and so forth. Child element styles trump parent element styles whenever the childrens' attributes are defined. Child elements inherit (cascade) from parents where undefined.

Read more: W3C's CSS spec, chap. 6 ("Assigning property values, Cascading, and Inheritance").
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Message 72274 - Posted: 21 Jan 2005, 1:42:18 UTC - in response to Message 72262.  
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> Even if the body, table, blah, blah, blah says "background-color: white;", the
> ...cut...
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Yes, the forum sides are ok, i'm talking only of the main/front page of the project...
front page
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Message 72290 - Posted: 21 Jan 2005, 2:00:00 UTC

But will Janus give us forum setting options regarding display font and text size?
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Message 72303 - Posted: 21 Jan 2005, 2:12:19 UTC - in response to Message 72274.  

http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/stylesheet.css does not specify any "background-color:" nor does it have a <body bgcolor="">.

I think it's your browser.
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Message 72420 - Posted: 21 Jan 2005, 4:18:14 UTC

Aha! I guess this should have been obvious since you have been saying that the front page is the only one that shows up weird... But the front page doesn't use the same stylesheet as the rest of the site which seems a bit odd to me. The copy/paste in my previous post was from the stylesheet the rest of the site uses. I DO understand what the problem is and in fact I just changed my browser's default background color to see what it looks like. It is horrible with hot pink as the background color! :)

I agree that it should be "propper" even if it DOES show up right on 90% of the screens out there... Will se what I can do.
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Message 72452 - Posted: 21 Jan 2005, 5:18:27 UTC - in response to Message 72420.  

The front page is a separate CSS (dunno why). I figured that if there wasn't a specification in the CSS or in the markup, then it must have been a browser-level decision.

Again, once I get my own act together...
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Message 72489 - Posted: 21 Jan 2005, 7:21:18 UTC - in response to Message 72303.  

> http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/stylesheet.css does not specify any
> "background-color:" nor does it have a .
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> I think it's your browser.
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Browsers also cache stylesheets.
So, a 'control refresh' in IE might do the trick.
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Message 72502 - Posted: 21 Jan 2005, 8:35:31 UTC

Someone look up the word "innane."
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