On my win98 machine I'm running 3 apps. Seti,Ppah, and Einstein. The "Work" tab shows all three. since they are sharing time, one project runs while the other two are paused. When LHC, Seti, and Ppah are paused the "CPU Time" continues to increase, however this doesn't happen when the Einstein computation is paused. The Einstein app seems to be operating the way the others should. It operates the way my XP machines do.

Could there be a solution to the problem coming now that it's narrowed down? Maybe its not important enough since this old machine is close to death. lol

I'm using Boinc 4.15 on this machine.

tony

Anyone else notice this?????

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Hmm,

This is very interesting.

I will post on developers boards to see if Bruce has come up with an innovation.

Here's a Post from some member at the einstein message board. Hope this helps.

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Ed & Harriet Griffith
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The CPU time and time to completion disappear whenever einstein pauses and reappear when it is computing. Also when they reappear they count down from where they started rather than remembering past units crunched. The percentage does, however, remember past units. This may be cured already in that I notice there is a new einstein 4.72 already. Thanks for letting me participate in real science! It is exciting to see the raw stuff which of course includes imperfections.
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The Cpu time on my win98 doesn't disappear like his/hers. It displays the total CPU on time for Einstien. Also, the "To Completion" time does not increase on the Einstein app like it does for Seti, PPAH, and LHC

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> The Cpu time on my win98 doesn't disappear like his/hers. It displays the
> total CPU on time for Einstien. Also, the "To Completion" time does not
> increase on the Einstein app like it does for Seti, PPAH, and LHC
>

Since win9x doesn't understand "cpu-time", it is never displaying anything except run-time. ;)

Sorry for not having W98, but WXP, and I used to have the problem of time dissapearing, when using 4.13 and 4.14 in Einstein, however, now, with 4.15 Einstein goes Ok. seti, goes ok, CPDN goes ok and ProteinPredictor goes ok, no other one as they do not send in any units yet.

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Patience is a virtue.

On one PC (PIII 1GHz WinME) I'm running Seti, Predictor and Einstein. When paused (left in memory) the CPU time of Seti and Predictor are still increasing, Einstein 4.71 does not have that problem.

A second PC (PIV 2.26GHz WinXP Pro UK) is also running more than 1 project: Seti and ClimatePrediction. On this one I don't see the problem.

The rest of my PC's only run 1 project, Seti.

4.71 was the einstein app in question on the first post of this thread. I'm now using 4.72 and it also works like 4.71 in regards to this bug.

tony

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> On my win98 machine I'm running 3 apps. Seti,Ppah, and Einstein. The "Work"
> tab shows all three. since they are sharing time, one project runs while the
> other two are paused. When LHC, Seti, and Ppah are paused the "CPU Time"
> continues to increase, however this doesn't happen when the Einstein
> computation is paused. The Einstein app seems to be operating the way the
> others should. It operates the way my XP machines do.
>
> Could there be a solution to the problem coming now that it's narrowed down?
> Maybe its not important enough since this old machine is close to death. lol
>


Hi,

I've been succcessfully running BOINC (all versions from v3.xx upto 4.15) and on three/four projects (SETI, LHC, CPDN, ProPredictor) since back in Sept 2004 on a 3.06GHZ Pentium 4 running Win98SE.


Until Einstein invited me to join the project a couple of days ago, the time shown as "CPU Time" (within BOINC) for "paused" projects was always increasing, but only AFTER the first time each project had run after the BOINC program had started.

Or in other words, until (say) SETI had been started, it's CPU time was fixed. But once BOINC had re-started the project (say after a re-boot) then the SETI "CPU time" would only carry on increasing after the SETI program had been paused by BOINC (and of course BOINC has switched to a different project).

Hence over three/four projects the CPU time would be increasing on all projects once BOINC had allowed each of them to run.

(Hope some one can understand the above - if not pls reply to this msg).

BUT....

With Einstein (v4.71), even after the project has run the first time, it's CPU time is paused and only carries on once the projects is re-activated by BOINC.


So, methinks that the Einstein team may have fixed the so-called "Win98 bug" which causes said clients to claim far more credits than they are actually due.



regards,

Timbo

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regards,
Tim
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I found this on another thread. Seems like they know where the problem is and have fixed it atleast for the Einstein App.

tony

Benher
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Posted: 21 Jan 2005 5:27:16 UTC
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David says they updated the BOINC API to fix the timing problem on Win 9x, but only the E@H science app currently uses the new updated code.

New science apps for seti & others may include the new features when their authors include them (that would be Eric Korpela for seti).

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