Multibeam and astropulse.

Author	Message
Eric J Korpela Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project scientist Send message Joined: 15 Mar 05 Posts: 1547 Credit: 27,183,456 RAC: 0	Message 10488 - Posted: 5 Dec 2006, 22:32:37 UTC Hi everybody, The new multibeam splitter is getting close, and astropulse is, too. Really. This time for sure. In order to use the new splitter I'm going to need to reorganize the database to add some new fields to the receiver configuration table, and some new elements to the analysis configuration. In order to do that without causing too much havoc, I'm going to need to shut down work creation, and (later) assimilation. So on friday, I'll turn of the beta splitter. On monday, I'll turn off assimilation. During the normal tuesday reorganization, I'll make the changes, and if all goes well, the multibeam splitter will start on tuesday afternoon. So don't be too worried about "No new work" messages over the weekend. Eric ID: 10488 ·

Pappa Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 13 Nov 05 Posts: 1724 Credit: 3,121,901 RAC: 0	Message 10490 - Posted: 6 Dec 2006, 0:34:14 UTC Thank You Eric Tongue in Cheek Pappa had started to gather tools to Fly down and Help Split Multibeam Data Snciker Thanks to Paul and Friends Please consider a Donation to the Seti Project ID: 10490 ·

kb7rzf Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 21 Aug 05 Posts: 720 Credit: 43,124 RAC: 0	Message 10492 - Posted: 6 Dec 2006, 0:41:43 UTC Wow, wonderful news Eric! We will all keep our fingers crossed and wait. :-) Jeremy ID: 10492 ·

Byron Leigh Hatch @ team Carl ... Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 15 Jun 05 Posts: 970 Credit: 1,495,169 RAC: 0	Message 10494 - Posted: 6 Dec 2006, 1:55:10 UTC Yes indeed this is Great news! thanks Eric :-) ID: 10494 ·

Pappa Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 13 Nov 05 Posts: 1724 Credit: 3,121,901 RAC: 0	Message 10515 - Posted: 6 Dec 2006, 20:14:51 UTC - in response to Message 10488. Eric How I read this is that you are turning off the splitters in an attempt to get all the current workunits out to the users and the results returned. The idea is to get as much of the current data finished as possible! IF that is the case, then WE should NOT try to cache anything to carry us past the outage... And pickup and alternate project until Tuesday afternoon... Or when you get the "no new work" start Seti Main or another project. Pappa Hi everybody, The new multibeam splitter is getting close, and astropulse is, too. Really. This time for sure. In order to use the new splitter I'm going to need to reorganize the database to add some new fields to the receiver configuration table, and some new elements to the analysis configuration. In order to do that without causing too much havoc, I'm going to need to shut down work creation, and (later) assimilation. So on friday, I'll turn of the beta splitter. On monday, I'll turn off assimilation. During the normal tuesday reorganization, I'll make the changes, and if all goes well, the multibeam splitter will start on tuesday afternoon. So don't be too worried about "No new work" messages over the weekend. Eric Thanks to Paul and Friends Please consider a Donation to the Seti Project ID: 10515 ·

Steve Cressman Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 14 Nov 05 Posts: 296 Credit: 13,874 RAC: 0	Message 10529 - Posted: 7 Dec 2006, 6:04:24 UTC Good news indeed. Does this mean a new app as well? And if so I hope that the issues for us win9x users is taken care of so that I/we can get back to testing. It has been such a long time since I have been able to contribute to the Beta project. Steve :) 98SE XP2500+ @ 2.1 GHz Boinc v5.8.8 ID: 10529 ·

Eric J Korpela Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project scientist Send message Joined: 15 Mar 05 Posts: 1547 Credit: 27,183,456 RAC: 0	Message 10541 - Posted: 7 Dec 2006, 19:39:35 UTC - in response to Message 10515. IF that is the case, then WE should NOT try to cache anything to carry us past the outage... And pickup and alternate project until Tuesday afternoon... Or when you get the "no new work" start Seti Main or another project. Yes, it's probably best to let your work run out, and not try to cache extra work for the beta. Eric ID: 10541 ·

Fuzzy Hollynoodles Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 17 Jun 05 Posts: 2087 Credit: 257,732 RAC: 0	Message 10563 - Posted: 8 Dec 2006, 23:06:30 UTC - in response to Message 10488. Hi everybody, The new multibeam splitter is getting close, and astropulse is, too. Really. This time for sure. In order to use the new splitter I'm going to need to reorganize the database to add some new fields to the receiver configuration table, and some new elements to the analysis configuration. In order to do that without causing too much havoc, I'm going to need to shut down work creation, and (later) assimilation. So on friday, I'll turn of the beta splitter. On monday, I'll turn off assimilation. During the normal tuesday reorganization, I'll make the changes, and if all goes well, the multibeam splitter will start on tuesday afternoon. So don't be too worried about "No new work" messages over the weekend. Eric Christmas comes early this year [b]"I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me[/b] ID: 10563 ·

[B^S] Gamma^Ray Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 30 Apr 06 Posts: 28 Credit: 2,936 RAC: 0	Message 10565 - Posted: 8 Dec 2006, 23:33:05 UTC Good News !!!! It would be nice if it happens to allow my Windows ME. to show cpu time and progress as it runs too. But one thing at a time LoL.. ID: 10565 ·

Perle Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 14 Jan 06 Posts: 4 Credit: 606,092 RAC: 0	Message 10576 - Posted: 9 Dec 2006, 7:23:32 UTC Last modified: 9 Dec 2006, 7:24:26 UTC Win98 or ME ? Not to be overly rude.....but who cares about 98 or ME? Does it do something xp dont ? Must be that it runs on old hardware?..? I know there is a bunch of folks that dont want to pay for XP or vista or new efficient hardware or... whatever....well join the other billions of us that dont. Honestly now....! I am not trying to be insultive or confrontational, rude or otherwise.... ....Just trying to incite a conversation. ps. I am so excited about Astropulse.....woots !! ID: 10576 ·

[B^S] Gamma^Ray Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 30 Apr 06 Posts: 28 Credit: 2,936 RAC: 0	Message 10578 - Posted: 9 Dec 2006, 7:59:04 UTC - in response to Message 10576. Win98 or ME ? I am not trying to be insultive or confrontational, rude or otherwise.... ....Just trying to incite a conversation. Then why not ask how's the weather then ? Instead of dumping on other users O/S's. Perhaps you should read the Rules posted on the left side of each post. No messages intended to annoy or antagonize other people, or to hijack a thread. No messages that are deliberately hostile or insulting. ID: 10578 ·

Perle Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 14 Jan 06 Posts: 4 Credit: 606,092 RAC: 0	Message 10579 - Posted: 9 Dec 2006, 8:18:52 UTC Last modified: 9 Dec 2006, 8:20:26 UTC that was not my intention. Simply trying to understand... ...are people still running 98/me..due to their hardware or out of spite against "Uncle Gates" I know many people get plenty of use out of older or 'legacy' systems that are not capable of xp....is this why support for 98/me still persists ? As I stated previously...just asking a question...not trying start an arguement. ID: 10579 ·

keyboards Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 11 Feb 06 Posts: 309 Credit: 4,022,545 RAC: 0	Message 10587 - Posted: 9 Dec 2006, 13:24:51 UTC - in response to Message 10579. that was not my intention. Simply trying to understand... ...are people still running 98/me..due to their hardware or out of spite against "Uncle Gates" I know many people get plenty of use out of older or 'legacy' systems that are not capable of xp....is this why support for 98/me still persists ? As I stated previously...just asking a question...not trying start an arguement. Until about 6 months ago I was running a WIN-95 cruncher for BETA. Slow, yes, but it still produced valid results and provided good science. Currently I am running a WIN2K and 2 XP machines, but it was nice to still find some use for the old hardware before putting it in the dust bin. Can't wait for the new data and ASTROPLULSE. *!!Stupidity should be PAINFUL!!* ID: 10587 ·

devn Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 11 Feb 06 Posts: 17 Credit: 16,036 RAC: 0	Message 10588 - Posted: 9 Dec 2006, 13:51:42 UTC - in response to Message 10488. Hi everybody, The new multibeam splitter is getting close, and astropulse is, too. Really. This time for sure. In order to use the new splitter I'm going to need to reorganize the database to add some new fields to the receiver configuration table, and some new elements to the analysis configuration. In order to do that without causing too much havoc, I'm going to need to shut down work creation, and (later) assimilation. So on friday, I'll turn of the beta splitter. On monday, I'll turn off assimilation. During the normal tuesday reorganization, I'll make the changes, and if all goes well, the multibeam splitter will start on tuesday afternoon. So don't be too worried about "No new work" messages over the weekend. Eric fantastic news! emptying my cache as fast as possible and looking forward to the new work. :) ID: 10588 ·

Steve Cressman Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 14 Nov 05 Posts: 296 Credit: 13,874 RAC: 0	Message 10589 - Posted: 9 Dec 2006, 13:55:04 UTC Last modified: 9 Dec 2006, 14:08:02 UTC And i prefer win98se over xp because it has less overhead. When my xp3000+ system is crunching, 99% of the cpu gets used for crunching and the os uses only 1% of the cpu. Also if you look at my stats sig you will see that this win98se system is almost in the top 1% for boinc combined scores. Very shortly I will have a quarter of a million points. Also I'm on permanent disability and do not receive much money and can't afford to spend $200 CDN for something I don't really need. If you feel so strongly about getting rid of win98 why don't you send me a legal copy of xp pro and I might consider installing it. Win98se runs all the software that I need to use for personal use. The only thing I can't do is play the latest games that require xp but I'm not into gaming anymore so why do I need another os? Steve 98SE XP2500+ @ 2.1 GHz Boinc v5.8.8 ID: 10589 ·

Perle Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 14 Jan 06 Posts: 4 Credit: 606,092 RAC: 0	Message 10594 - Posted: 9 Dec 2006, 15:27:53 UTC Last modified: 9 Dec 2006, 15:31:57 UTC I have heard others mention that about 98 and it having a small footprint. I am the only 'winders' user in my circle of friends and as such, I am continually being prodded to make the switch to linux. This conversation has been had with a tech friend, he maintains a win98 system to deal with Compaq's and their proprietary nature. He uses this win98 machine to create the raid arrays, then installs the drives in the server or compaq machine. Their running joke about me: "everytime you use windows, Uncle Gates kills a kitten" . ID: 10594 ·

Dotsch Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 14 Jun 05 Posts: 103 Credit: 93,106 RAC: 0	Message 10595 - Posted: 9 Dec 2006, 16:01:55 UTC - in response to Message 10594. I have heard others mention that about 98 and it having a small footprint. According to the stat sites, Windows 9x/ME has a RAC of about 90000 on SETI. This is about 50 % of the Unixes at SETI. So I think the support for Windows 9x/ME should not be droped. ID: 10595 ·

Ingleside Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 14 Jun 05 Posts: 94 Credit: 147,582 RAC: 0	Message 10596 - Posted: 9 Dec 2006, 17:10:28 UTC - in response to Message 10595. According to the stat sites, Windows 9x/ME has a RAC of about 90000 on SETI. This is about 50 % of the Unixes at SETI. So I think the support for Windows 9x/ME should not be droped. Seeing Linux has RAC over 2M, not sure how you've gotten to "50% of Unixes"... Anyway, a quick look reveals win9x accounts for 0.356% of RAC in SETI@home, and the 3 "supported" platforms, WinNT/Linux/Mac, accounts for 98.97% of total. ID: 10596 ·

Dotsch Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 14 Jun 05 Posts: 103 Credit: 93,106 RAC: 0	Message 10601 - Posted: 9 Dec 2006, 17:55:28 UTC - in response to Message 10596. Last modified: 9 Dec 2006, 17:56:11 UTC According to the stat sites, Windows 9x/ME has a RAC of about 90000 on SETI. This is about 50 % of the Unixes at SETI. So I think the support for Windows 9x/ME should not be droped. Seeing Linux has RAC over 2M, not sure how you've gotten to "50% of Unixes"... Ups, sorry, meaned Unix without Linux. Anyway, a quick look reveals win9x accounts for 0.356% of RAC in SETI@home, and the 3 "supported" platforms, WinNT/Linux/Mac, accounts for 98.97% of total. Yes, but I see the problem that there are still peoples out there which using Windows 9x/ME and wan't still to crunch SETI. Also, I think a broad support of platforms is very good for the image of the project. I guess, if the Windows 98 will not anymore supported, there are a lot of peoples frustrated. - Also I have seen it last year (at the Classic switch off) with the misssing MacOS 8/9 support and other not supported OSes on the SETI main forums. ID: 10601 ·

[B^S] Gamma^Ray Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 30 Apr 06 Posts: 28 Credit: 2,936 RAC: 0	Message 10625 - Posted: 9 Dec 2006, 20:35:46 UTC Last modified: 9 Dec 2006, 20:39:30 UTC I guess I could say im still using ME based on it does/did what I needed it to do through the years. As I bought it over 6 years ago for gaming (XP wasn't out yet), Then found out later that SETI Classic was still active, Decided to crunch there, To which it worked great. Then switched to BOINC when it started and have continued using it up to today. Only this year did I finially build a replacement system for it using XP Pro. I could have upgraded the older computer to XP, But I figured why ? Why pay Gates another 80-100 Bucks to have something that I already paid him once to have ? Yes XP would be alot easier for MANY Things, But I guess Im stubborn, And don't have a money tree like some do. Its also abit annoying that you buy a computer with the "Latest" and "Greatest"(cough) Operating System, Then a year later, Gates basically pulls the plug on it, You hear it was a experiment that didn't work, And whithin what seemed like not very long afterwards, Is no longer supported by MS. THen as you are crunchin through the years in BOINC, You end up being left out of the loop with the newer projects to where you can only crunch for a small group of them, And then the final insult comes from newer users who dump on people who are still trying to use what they origianlly paid for. I do understand why its not a major priority with projects today, It wouldn't be for me if I were starting one, But it does still suck regardless. Im actually in the process of starting a new build, And retiring my old faithfull ME. computer and giving it to my wife for pictures and stuff. Thus one more workhorse will be sent out to pasture. Also as a side note, Originally when I started crunching here with my ME. It worked fine just as it did for seti, Its only the past several months has the updates and etc. Caused my ME. To still be able to crunch a wu, But without any activity in the BOINC manager. I have to turn on the SS to see what its doing, Then manually end the job once finished via TaskMan. But, It still ends as valid, And I pat my old pc on the top and say good job grandpa :) And finially, Thanks to Gates, I plan on going to a Linux system next over windows too. Not because I can't afford it, Or don't like MS as a program, But because Gates has left a bad taste in my mouth. And now I supposedly can't replace my computers Motherboard without buying another copy of XP ? LoL.. :) G^R Windows XP-SP2,5.8.15,3800x2,2gig ID: 10625 ·

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